Suzy and Sinéad seem to be pissed off over Piaras saying:
“I think that there has to be some sort of correlation between the lack of female comedians and the relative shortfall of women in senior management positions.�
Piaras adds:
organisations might be better off funding programs which encourage women to take up public speaking or even stand-up comedy rather than simply setting up grants to encourage them into specific industries
and maybe we could also, you know, fund iniatives to get them to learn about how to talk about soccer and rugby so they can be one of the lads but in a manner not to make the lads feel even more inferior because a female knows more about their macho topic than they do. We could also teach them to play golf which is great for networking.
There are lots of reasons why women are not in senior positions. I wonder how many women that do hold senior positions are married and have families? I would say a lot less again. To say it is because they are, in genera,l bad orators and need to tell more jokes doesn’t seem quite credible. I think Piaras is just trolling the ladies on International Women’s Day to get a buzz going. A good fight now and then is great.
As I said in my minute post, it’s all a bit ‘lovely girls’.
And I could you talk you under the table about football Mulley.
Well, there’s no way to speculate about that sort of thing without offending someone. There has to be a correlation somewhere but it’s easier to believe in a “glass ceiling” preventing progress than it is for self-motivated go-getter entrepreneurial businesswomen to believe that some of their gender may prefer not to follow them into business.
Men, on the other hand, despite being demasculated (must….hunt..animals…..ugh gurrrrr), don’t have the opportunity to stay at home with the kids. however much they may want to.
Damien – you started all of this with that initial post….you scurrilous chancer (or maybe it’s just a wry sense of humour eh?)
T G: What initial post?
Sinad: As for football, I have Suzy on my pub quiz team. Beat that Gleeson!
Ooo I love pub quizzes. Let me know when the next one is.
Hmm… people seem to have completely misread my original post. I agree the original title was a bit troll-like, but it was meant to encourage discussion rather than cause offense.
I’m not talking about being able to tell jokes, I’m talking about being able to stand in front of an audience and showcase your achievements.
Statistics are showing that women score better than men, but yet they still don’t get as many top-level jobs. While having children plays a factor in this, I think that men might be just talk themselves up a bit more.
Days like International Women’s Day should be used to break down stereotypes. If I’ve caused offense then I’m sorry. It wasn’t intended, I’ll just have to learn to formulate my thoughts better.
I work in PR, a profession dominated by women so either I work with a load of comedians or with people that are passionate about their work and not afraid to shout about their results.
What women need to get promoted? Well that’s easy, forget the sense of humour and the genetalia. Women need wives, see it’s simple.
When men get promotion it is because the company/organisation whatever, knows that somewhere in the background there is a woman; be she wife, girlfriend, mother, or sister; she’s there, she will take care of the domestic, see that his pristine suits and shirts and ties are regularly taken to the dry-cleaners/ironed etc, she will remind him of things he’s forgotten, she will sort the sock drawer, the shirt pile, pick up his dirty clothes and put them where they should be. She will know where he has left his keys, work papers, passport, and that it’s about time he went for a check-up with the doctor, dentist, chriopidist, psychotherapist etc.
And of course in the case of wives, if there be offspring, she will go with them to the doctor, dentist, school meetings, school plays, recitals, concerts, ballet classes, music classes etc.
Women do have a sense of humour, we are just not good at getting paid for it.
What women need to be promoted is wives.
Wha’ya think about my sense of humour? Do I get the promotion?
Brilliant. Tis so true!
Come on the Pool! (oh Barcelona….ye were grand last night..) Footie moment over
…Pub quiz in Front Lounge on 15thMarch @8p.m in aid of the KALcase by the way…I’m helping organise it so can’t be on any team – if you are interested in info leave a comment on the blog)
…and as for presentation deportment and all that jazz I’ll be back to it once I have finished doing the dishes…
I have always said that I needed a wife.
I remember once being interviewed for a job and during they ‘have you any questions?” bit I asked would it be possible to start at 9.30am instead of 9am and stay half an hour later as I had to bring the daughter to school.
The prospective boss said: ‘I have three children and I manage to get them up and out to school and be here by 9am.’
And while I am wildly proud of myself for this spoken-without-thinking comment it is not the way to go in interviews but I said ‘aye but you have a wife’.
He looked at me strangely-ish and said nothing. Though I did get the job but I have to say it was the worst job in the world so its not like I won some fundamental argument and I had to be in by 9am.
Ehm the phrase pyrric (!) victory springs to mind.
Piaras,
No need to start trolling the ladies. Tut-tut.
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